Isabella Nevill/e & William Smythe of Elford - Staffordshire
Isabella's Neville lineage: JOHN > RICHARD > SIR RALPH DE NEVILLE, 1ST EARL OF WESTMORLAND > JOHN > RALPH > RANDOLPH
Question - are the three yellow devices in two quarterings of this shield the origin of the lozenges found on several Smyth sets of arms?
This line has sparked a degree of interest in America and appears to connect the Huddleston family and a particular Smith - Smyth/e family line to Smith/Smyth/e cousins in England. Also included in this line is the family name of Holmes-Smith and Drake.
Lady Isabella Neville probably married three times. She married Sir William Huddleston and Sir William Smythe. She also married Ralph Dacre but it is not known whether she had any issue from this marriage or whether he was her 1st, or 2nd husband. However, William Huddleston and Isabella Neville had two sons. Their son, Richard Huddleston, married his step-sister Margery Smythe (and probably also Elizabeth Dacre) while his brother, Sir John Huddleston, of the Manor of Sawston, married Elizabeth Sutton. These details are confirmed by the Heveningham pedigree as well as by the pedigrees of Brooke of Haselour and Bowes of Elford. The Sutton family is of Cheshire (see Smyths of Cheshire via Smythe Index) and of Haddon Hall where it also connects with the Manners family, Earls and Dukes of Rutland, ancestors in the maternal line of this site.
Isabella Neville was the youngest child of seven children (only two brothers, George and John) and was the daughter of John Neville (1st Montacute - born c.1431) and Isabel Ingoldsthorpe (b. 1441). Isabel Ingoldsthorpe was from Cambridgeshire and the daughter of Edmund Ingoldsthorpe and Joan Tiptoft. John Neville was killed at the Battle of Barnet in 1471. His wife is recorded as marrying 2ndly Sir William Norreys in 1457 so there must have been a parting of the ways prior to Neville's death at Barnet. She died in 1476. The father of John Neville was Richard Neville, 1st Earl of Salisbury; his mother was Alice Montague. His grandfather was, therefore, Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland.
Isabella Neville was the niece of Richard (Kingmaker) Neville and the second of the two wives to Sir William Smythe. His first wife was Anne Staunton. It was through the Staunton/Stanley connection that the Smythes held the lands and Manor of Elford in Staffordshire. Further details about Elford and the related families of that seat may be found on the site of Rosemary May - to whom gratitude is extended for permission to adapt her photographs here. To see interconnected families descending to Rosemary (St. Leger, Heveningham, Cave etc.) follow the Smythe of Wiltshire link. Se also Smythe links to the Cromwell family.
Also from the source files of Rosemary May - with thanks, - Burke's "Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland" states - "Lady Isabel Neville, fifth daughter of John, Marques of Montacute. This lady, on the death of her brother George, Duke of Bedford, divided with her four sisters as his co-heirs, the large possessions which had belonged to the Marques of Montacute, her father, to Sir Edmund Inglesthorpe, her maternal grandfather, and to John Tiptoft, Earl of Worcester, her maternal great-uncle, as fully set forth in the ancient partition made on the 4th of July, 17th of Henvry VII in the hands of the present Mr. Huddleston. Lady Isabella's portion comprised fifteen manors or estates, amongst which were those of Sawston and Dernford, still the property and abode of the family."
Elford - (Source: "The King's England - Staffordshire" by Arthur Mee)
"It is a little casket of wonder, spendour, and history. Though Elford Hall, built on the site of the house in which Henry VII (lineal ancestor in the maternal line) slept the night before Bosworth Field has gone, (Haselour Hall is also described as the house where Henry VII slept the night before Bosworth Field) the monuments of those who lived here, the Stanleys, the Smythes, and the Howards, are in the church.
The famous monuments are themselves milestones. The earliest is the alabaster tomb on which lie the effigies of Sir Thomas Arderne, who fought at Poitiers and died about 1400, and his wife Matilda. He wears plate armour and has on the front of his helmet the words Jesu Maria. The sword in his hand is richly chased, and his gauntlet has a diamond pattern. Like his wife he wears the [distinctive] collar of the Lancastrians. She has a Plantagenet bonnet, a clock, and a flowing robe, and her hand is clasped in his. At the sides of the tomb are 22 small statues, 12 shield-bearing angels and 10 mourning kindred.
Another of the monuments (above right) is the alabaster tomb of Sir William Smythe, who died in 1525. He lies in armour between two wives in flowing gowns. The first, wearing a three-cornered hat, was Annie Staunton, (above left) daughter and heiress of Margery Stanley. The second, in her coronet, (below) was Lady Isabella Neville, niece of the Earl of Warwick, the King-maker.
It was a tremendous chapter of history that closed in the grave with the Lady Isabella. Reared in the home of one of our proudest nobles, she shared the wildest vicissitudes of fortune; her father and the Kingmaker (nephew of maternal line Neville family, Cecily Neville) fell at Barnet, and their bodies were exposed for two days at St. Paul's Cathedral, to convince the country that the formidable brothers were really dead.
Then the proud lady we see here was beggared by the confiscation of her father's estates, and her eldest brother, the heir, because of the poverty to which the family was thus reduced, was degraded from his rank, being declared incapable of supporting his title. Few women have known such crushing sorrows and reverses as she who lies here serene in her coronet."
Other genealogies are noted as follows:-
What are the odds of Richard Irving DACRE being the Best Man at the wedding of Henry James Drew SMYTHE in 1914? And, in the Smyth of Ireland pedigree may be found the family name Ingoldsby (Ingoldsthorpe) Both the words ... thorpe and ... by are of Norse (Danish) origin and mean pretty much the same thing ... a market place and a town. Did one branch of the family name change to Ingoldsby over the course of time?