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Thomas Smyth - a Lord Mayor of Liverpool
of the Smyth family, Ireland and 'the Fence House', Macclesfield, in CheshireCarrier - typical of Pickfords of the era - computer generated image adapted from 1890 family photograph

This branch of the Smyth family is also the lineage of Dame Ethel Smyth (1858-1944) another celebrated descendant of William Smyth of Ireland as confirmed in the book 'Smythe of Barbavilla' by family historian, Stephen Penny who also descends from this Durham/Yorkshire line.Dame Ethel Smyth - composer, writer and suffragette ...

Dame Ethel's descent, according to Stephen Penny, was from a Smyth who returned to England in a later era. Click on the image of Dame Ethel Smyth for an article about her public life and a link which leads to more information on her family.

A first cousin to Dame Ethel Smyth was Nina Caroline Sarah Smyth (born in 1859) and the following information comes from a direct descendant of hers, Julie (Neal) Summers, to whom gratitude is extended for drawing attention to this line and for making her research available to this site and which is further explored here. Julie states that Nina C. S. Smyth's father was the Reverend Hugh Blagg Smyth, born in 1822. Hugh Blagg Smyth and Dame Ethel Smyth's father, Major General J. H. Smyth, were siblings. Hugh Blagg Smyth's father is named as Edward Smyth who married Sarah Pickford on 22nd. May 1806 at Prestbury in Cheshire. Sarah was of the Pickford's transport company family.

In the early years of their marriage, she and Edward Smyth held nearby Birches Farm and oversaw the operation of the Manchester to Leek vehicles and stables at Poynton for the family firm. John Pickford was Sarah's father.

Edward's father was Thomas Smyth - a banker and landowner - who was born circa 1738 and who died in 1824. This was Thomas Smyth, Lord Mayor of Liverpool who married Eliza (Elizabeth) Blagg. Site Note: The following entry applies to a list of Mayors of Macclesfield and is probably one and the same Edward Smyth/e who married Sarah Pickford in 1806, given that his father, Thomas, had been a Mayor of Liverpool in the closing years of the previous century. Edward eventually followed his father into banking.

1816 Edward Smythe, Mayor of Macclesfield (final letter e in the original)
1853 John Smith

The following is a brief excerpt from a comprehensive study of the area - Chapter 8, entitled " Road and Canal Transport and Traffic: Pickfords, a Local Carrying Firm" - from: Poynton A Coalmining Village; social history, transport and industry 1700 - 1939, by W.H.Shercliff, D.A.Kitching and J.M.Ryan, published by W.H.Shercliff, 1983. ISBN 0 9508761 0 0 - Further deatils can be accessed via the link.

"The name of Pickford is fairly common in the parish Registers of Macclesfield and in the Hurdsfield, Adlington and Poynton areas. A Thomas Pickford was involved in support for the Royalists in the form of horses supplied during the Civil War and in carting stone from Goyt quarries after 1660 for road repair with other goods in the reverse direction on packhorse trains. There is no certainty that he was related to James Pickford, the founder of the famous carrying firm but it seems likely that James' father was Matthew Pickford of Adlington, whose home was probably at Whiteley Heys on the south side of Whiteley Green.
Matthew was a successful timber merchant as well as a farmer having premises in Wood Street, Manchester. When he died in 1741 he left, in his will dated 4 December 1740, these premises and stock of timber to his two elder sons John and Matthew and two other trustees to be sold. The residue of his estate and the proceeds of this sale were shared equally between his four sons, the youngest of whom was James. The sale is advertised in the Manchester Mercury for 27 July 1742 which says at the end "For particulars enquire of his sons; John Pickford of Poynton, Matthew Pickford at the aforesaid timber yards and Henry Richardson in Norbury".
It thus appears that John already lived in Poynton most likely as a farmer at Lostock Hall, - his marriage is recorded in Poynton Parish Register and he was tenant there in the 1770 survey. Many Pickford graves are to be found at Prestbury churchyard not far from the chapel, including probably this John who died on 23 September 1780 and those of James and his son Matthew and their wives."

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Where Ireland had "Smyth of the Gates" so England had "Smyth of the Fence" for Thomas Smyth and Eliza Blagg lived at the Fence House, in Macclesfield and, according to notes written by Julie (Neal) Summers' great uncle, Michael Livesley - which were "taken from a genealogical study carried out in 1893 by Dame Ethel Smyth, daughter of General John Smyth of Frimhurst, Farnborough, Hants" - Edward Smyth (Dame Ethel's grandfather) became at one time Director of "the Norwich branch of the Bank of England". This may suggest a connection with the Smyth/e and Smith families of Norfolk treated on this site. Especially significant is that there is a Dickens Lane and a "Dickens" estate mentioned in documentation associated with this Macclesfield (Poynton) area - qv the sigfnificance of Dickens family via this Smyth/e Norfolk research link. The names of Dickens and Smyth (as well as the family name Thorpe) are interlinked in Norfolk; additionally, John Hall Smyth (brother of Hugh Blagg Smyth and father of Dame Ethel) was married in that same county in 1849.

From the British Public Records Office A2A database comes this reference, contained in the records of the law firm Hand, Morgan and Owen of Lichfield, Staffordshire. Perhaps this was the local Dickens family and, as for many in the area, cotton was the staple of their wealth.

FILE  [no title] - ref.  D615/D/153  - date: 1778 - 1819; 1834
            \_ [from Scope and ContentAlrewas Mills (part) and other property formerly belonging to Messrs. Dickens & Co, cotton spinners.

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The lineage of the Smyth family of the Fence House - as given by Julie's great uncle - begins with William Smyth, "the first settler" in Ireland who moved from Rosedale Abbey in the early 1600s. There are some inconsistencies which require investigation but there is no reason to doubt the progenitors as being the Smyth family of Rosedale since the expertise and detailed research sources of Stephen Penny quite independently confirm that Dame Ethel Smyth was "a celebrated descendant" of William Smyth. Perhaps William’s most celebrated descendant was Dame Ethel Smyth, D.B.E., [1922]" declares Stephen Penny, in his 1974 privately printed (200 copies) family genealogy "Smythe of Barbavilla". Details in this book come courtesy of Canon Ronald Smythe, brother of Patricia (Pat) Smythe, the pioneering female Olympic show jumper.

Canon Ronald Smythe of the 'Smythe of Barbavilla' line of Ireland states in family correspondence (2002) that his family branch (via Henry Meade Smythe (1787-1862) (aka "Tiger Smythe") descended from Ralph Smyth, another son of William Smyth, the First Settler -) also moved back to England from Ireland and settled in Somerset during the early 1800s. He spent many years in the army in India and married Frances Barbara Cooke (1817-1906) - a much younger cousin - late in life. Their first child, Katherine Frances Leititia Smythe was born in Belgium in 1837.

Michael Livesley writes: "I have been able to trace our family through ten generations ... and this shows how Edward married Miss Pickford." The following is a site analysis based on his lineage notes.

Site note

13/5/03 - Information more recently to hand, discovers that Dame Ethel does, indeed, link her family line back to the Irish Smyths who settled in the northern part of Ireland in "1625", coming originally from Yorkshire. She writes (in Impressions That Remained) that they were originally of Heath Hall, Yorkshire "where the parent stock still survives". Later, she writes that her particular branch had been back in England for three generations and that her father "who was vague on such matters" maintained that she was descended from a certain Edward Smyth, Bishop of Down and Connor, who, "in his sub-character of chaplain to William of Orange, drafted the laws concerning Irish Catholics." She goes on to say that she was delighted to find, in later years - by which time she had also found out the nature of those laws - that she was not descended from Edward but from his younger brother, John Smyth, but, about whom, very little is known.

NB: Connectors - The Heath Hall Smyths and the Shropshire Smyths (of Durham and Acton Burnell) could well have had Maria (Fitzherbert) Smyth as family in common - since she (with her husband - the Prince/King George IV)'s help, assisted the settlement of a group of French refugee nuns at Heath Hall at the time of the French Revolution.

This Smyth line is given as: Hugh Blagg Smyth, s.o. Edward, s.o. Thomas of Macclesfield, s.o. James of Ireland, s.o. John, s.o. James, s.o. William, s.o. William (from Yorkshire to Ireland). This line then retraces to William Smithdike - "an assistant to Henry VIII" - origins currently under research. (qv Smythe/e Index.)

William Smyth of Rosedale Abbey, Yorks. Settled in Ireland c. 1630
William Smyth m. Dowdall  
James Smyth of Lisnegarby married (his cousin?) Frances Dowdall, daughter of Edward Dowdall of Montown. The son (says Burke) of this marriage was Edward Smyth (1662-1720) (Rt. Reverend) Bishop of Down who married (1696) his cousin, Elizabeth Smith (Smyth), elder daughter of the Rt. Reverend Edward Smith/Smyth - Smyth of Mount Henry.
This is where the problem lies. Did James have another son, named John?
13/5/03 - it would appear so. See Dame Ethel's information above or on her page on this site.
other son - John Smyth d. 1746 m. Miss Scott  
A son of John Smyth was James Smyth who married Ruth Hill
Site Note: Information extracted from LDS IGI
James Smith
Marriages:
Spouse:  Ruth Hill (born about 1708)
Marriage: 
18 APR 1729   Cloghran, Dublin, Ireland
A son of James Smyth was Thomas Smyth m. 1762 Eliza Blagg
Thomas Smyth
 
A Thos Smyth was christened at St. Nicholas Within, Dublin by James Smyth and mother, Ruth ("Mrs.") on 19th November 1737 which would mean that he had just turned 25 when he married - if this was him.
 
Dame Ethel Smyth states it was Thomas Smyth who moved back to England. He subsequently became Lord Mayor of Liverpool.

Site Notes

A John Smyth was born 22th November 1729 in Dublin. Christened 28th November at St. Nicholas Within, Dublin by James Smyth and mother, Ruth.

A James Smyth was born 24th September 1736 in Dublin. Christened 30th September at St. Nicholas Within, Dublin by James Smyth and mother, Ruth ("Mrs.").

A son of Thomas Smyth was Edward Smyth m. Sarah Pickford
Edward Smyth

They were married in 1806 at Prestbury in Cheshire. Edward was also sometime Director of the Bank of England in Norwich.

Edward's brother, William Smyth (1765–1849) was Reguis Professor of History at Cambridge University 1807–49 and private tutor to Tom Sheridan, Richard Brinsley Sheridan's eldest son, 1793–1806. (Cambridge University - Darwin Project)

Typical architecture of Prestbury in Cheshire ...Pickfords family - carriers and removers.

Image: Prestbury

A typically picturesque view of Medieval architecture and the mellow brick of locally raised clay.

A son of Edward Smyth was Hugh Blagg Smyth b. 1822 m. Leeds 1847 Jane Ewart Gott
Hugh Blagg Smyth d. 1879

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His brother was John Hall Smyth - a senior ranking Royal Engineer with a distinguished military record. He was the father of Dame Ethel Smyth, the composer/sufragette.

Michael Livesley's great grandmother's name - Ewart ... Michael has a child's mourning ring marked "Ewart" containing a lock of hair.

They had eight children. Jane's brother was a Bishop of Truro. Related to "Straffer" Gott of "The Desert Rats" WW2.

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It may be significant that the second forename is Hall since Corbetta Smyth's daughter, Corbetta Manners, married into a Hall family. She eloped.

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He was told by his mother that this lady came over, escaping from the French Revolution and lost a child, commemorated in the ring.

Nina Smyth m. 1888 Rev. Harry Clifford
Nina Caroline Sarah Smyth

LDS IGI information locates the last four Smyth generations but does not yet (apart from Nina and Hugh) connect them as lineal family nor list children of the marriages.

Minor Canon, Worcester Cathedral
Nina Smyth Clifford m. William Arthur Livesley Bank Manager and Cotton Broker of Manchester. His father was a printer and an Alderman of Manchester.

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Michael Livesley explains:

"In marrying Miss Blagg, it would appear that her [Dame Ethel's] great grandfather [Thomas, Lord Mayor of Liverpool] had become owner of a great deal of land in Cheshire - the Fence House Estate which, with other land near Norbury and Poynton, he farmed. Ethel's father sold this property, retaining only a few farms near Macclesfield shortly after buying Frimhurst, Farnborough, Hants. ."
Items that existed in Ethel Smyth's time were:
Details of Edward Smyth's Bible; a volume in smooth calf leather from which are copied some of the details [by Ethel] in the [family] study; details of Edward Smyth as Commander of the Macclesfield Squadron of the Cheshire Yeomanry and documents giving details [of the latter]; extract from the Macclesfield Courier and Herald dated September 3rd 1814 priced at sixpence ha'penny: "Died on Tuesday last aged 64 Mrs Ryle the relict of the late T. Ryle Esq., of Park House. Also on the same day and a few hours afterwards, at the more advanced age of 74, beloved and regretted Mrs. Smyth of the Fence House. Of kindred virtues and mutual affections, these two ladies saw their families united and in their death were not divided." Michael Livesley reflects, "It woud appear that both the Ryles and the Blaggs of Macclesfield are relatives".
Relicts of the '45
Three goblets of engraved glass - one bearing the portrait of Prince Charlie - were left at Fence House by that Prince when he and his suite occupied it in 1745. The Fence [House] was then occupied by the Blaggs who fled before the invader, taking the baby [William Blagg's daughter, Eliza b. 1740] with them. They sought refuge in the house of their friends, the Leighs of Lyme [als. Leghs of Lyme] until they, in turn, had to flee and ensconced themselves on the Peak of Derby [It is thought that kin property lay there also - possibly Haddon Hall] where they remained until quiet was restored. Ethel states that her grandfather told her this tale frequently.

"Set in the heart of the Cheshire countryside, Adlington Hall is one of England's most beautiful country homes, with a history that can be traced back to 1040 when the Legh family of Adlington chose the site for a hunting lodge in the Forest of Macclesfield" - The arms of this family also displays a unicorn at its helm - see Smyth of Ireland pages. (A link to Adlington Hall and similar estates in the area may be found below)

Pictures in the possession of the family in 1892:
Edward Smyth Esq. of the Fence; a beautiful portrait, nearly life-size - in oils - of a young man sitting in hose and doublet, with two setters. This was by Wright of Derby, finished by a pupil. Owner - General J.H. Smyth.
Edward Smyth of the Fence; an oil painting - full face, white, fluffy hair, black coat and tie, buff waistcoat, age about 85, half length. Owner - General J.H Smyth.
Edward Smyth of the Fence; a miniature, originally in double case (red leather) left profile, blue coat, yellow waistcoat, high white collar' aged 70-80, hair white. Owner - General J.H. Smyth.
Sarah Smyth née Pickford (wife of the above); a miniature originally in double case (red leather) rather smaller than her husband's, left profile, white cap with "pink ribbons white muslin shawl, brown hair, age 40-50". [Owner - General J.H. Smyth.]

Michael Livesley concludes, mentioning that there was also a portrait of General J.H. Smyth in oils, painted by Jonquière - head and shoulders, aged about 30. The owner is stated to be Mrs. Hutchinson, Owthorpe, Bournmouth. "There are many other pictures and items mentioned in the study but not directly concerned with our side of the family"

Besides Nina Smyth (b. 1859), the Reverend Hugh Blagg Smyth had a son, Hugo William Nairne Scott Smyth who was born at Littlehampton. In 1888, Nina (Caroline Sarah) Smyth married Harry Clifford who was, by 1895, a Minor Canon at Worcester Cathedral. From this marriage, a daughter - Nina Smyth Clifford - married William Arthur Livesley (1918) and they had a daughter, Bettine Livesley. She married (1944) Glanville Percy Ralph Neal from whom Julie (Neal) Summers descends.

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Notes and analysis ... Thomas Smyth's Will

This is the last Will and Testament of me, Thomas Smyth of the Fence House in Hurdsfield in the county of Chester [as written] Esquire. In the first place I will and direct that all my just Debts Funeral Expenses and the charges of proving this my Will be paid and discharged as soon as conveniently may be hereafter my decease, but it is my will and desire and I so direct that the Debt or Sum of one hundred and eighty pounds secured by my promisory note to the late Michael Daintry Esquire, and the further sum of five hundred and fifty pounds secured by the joint and several note of myself and my eldest son William Smyth, professor of modern History, shall be paid and discharged by him my said son to John Smith Daintry and John Ryle Esquires to whom the said Debts are respectively owing the money having been expended in the repairs of the Fence House otherwise for the advantage of my said sons Estates and I give and bequeath unto my said son William all the plate I have either at the Fence House or at the Bank of Messrs. Daintry Ryle and Company and also a pair of diamond earrings which were his mothers. And I do give and bequeath unto my second son Edward Smyth all my money securities for money and all other the residue and remainder of my personal Estate and Effects whatsoever and wheresoever to and for his own proper use and benefit and I do hereby nominate and appoint my said sons William Smyth and Edward Smyth Executors of this my Will and hereby revoking all former and other Wills by me made I declare this to be my last Will and Testament. In witness whereof I the said Thomas Smyth have hereunto set my hand and seal this seventh day of April 1823. Signed sealed published and declared by the said Thomas Smyth the Testator as and for his last Will and Testament in the presence of us ....

The witnesses to the Will were John Dawkins and Thomas Grimsdike. The will was signed "Tho. Smythe" with the letter e being clearly written and used. The Daintrys and Ryles were prominent Macclesfield families - further details may be found on the Smyth of Cheshire page of this site - and it may be seen there that the Ryles and Smyths (or more precisely, the Blaggs, through Eliza's family) were kin. With the name John Smith Daintry in the Will, the Smyths (Smiths) would also appear to have been kin to the Daintrys.

Eliza (Blagg) Smyth had predeceased her husband by some ten years and in his Will, Thomas Smyth leaves everything to his two sons. But, interestingly enough, no mention is made in the Will of the actual Estate - the "Fence House" itself - other than to instruct that William Smyth should pay off debts associated with repairs carried out on the property at some previous date "otherwise for the advantage of my said sons Estates". It must be asked, therefore, whether Fence House was, in fact, actually owned by Thomas Smyth at the time of his death. It is more likely that William Smyth had already become the owner of the estate and was enjoying the incomes and rents at Cambridge and received "all the plate I have either at the Fence House or at the Bank of Messrs. Daintry Ryle and Company and also a pair of diamond earrings which were his mothers" whilst Edward was the beneficiary of "everything else".

Julie Summers' information concludes:

"The Fence House and estate was quite a prominent place and we have looked at the land records and tithe maps for the estate which belonged to the Smyth family. As far as we know, this is now a housing estate."

On Julie Summers' copy of the tithings (this process is believed to have been carried out in 1841) for the Fence House Estate, the owner is noted as being William Smythe (with an e). This, presumably, would have been Edward Smyth's brother - the Cambridge professor - who died in 1849. As has been seen, Edward seems to have had extensive interests elsewhere, in banking.

William Smyth was the owner of some 70 parcels in all. Occupying the Smyth land were the following: Thomas Brocklehurst, Thomas Barnes, Len (or Lea?) Foden and Thomas Roylance, Thomas Ollerenshaw and then, leased by John Brown but held by Francis Sherratt and others, part 172, leased by Thomas Ollerenshaw, held by William Beard and others, part 173, leased by Robert Hammond, held by Edward Hammond and another, part 174 and leased by James Harrison and also held by Thomas Goulden and others, part 175.

Also named as holding Smyth land are Samuel Harding, James Martin and David Hill. A Plantation and reservoir was not encumbered but remained "in hand" while the Trustees of Macclesfield National School are named - as Lessees of a portion (#171) that was also "in hand". Finally, there was a James Brown who is recorded as being the most extensive holder, being associated with some 24 parcels. Neighbouring parcels to the Smyth land belonged to Edward, Earl of Derby, whose property was occupied by John Booth (4 parcels) and by John Barnes (5 parcels).

Since Professor William Smyth died (dsp) in 1849, it is presumed that the property would have reverted to the line of his brother, Edward Smyth and the sons, Hugh and John. In that latter generation 'the Fence' was sold by John Hall Smyth as indicated by Dame Ethel Smyth, his daughter, in her auto-biographical writing.

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Further analysis and research reveals ...

There is an Ancestry.com record of the birth of an Ethel Mary Julie Smyth registered in the December quarter of 1861 at Thrapston which area is mainly in Northamptonshire but also includes parts of Huntingdonshire. (see below) It may (or may not) be significant that when (Reverend Benjamin) James Francis Smythe moved from his Baptist pastorate at Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire (1883-1896) to Small Heath in Birmingham in 1896, his daughter, Helen Smythe (born c. 1873) chose to move to Long Buckby in Northamptonshire. Long Buckby is in census area 165 and Thrapston in area 161 for the 1891 census. Could it be that Helen Smythe removed to stay with a cousin Smyth/e family of Long Buckby - so near to Thrapston as it is? This same Ethel M. J. Smyth shows up living at 'Firwood' in Chalford, Gloucestershire at the 1901 census, stating her age at 39 'last birthday', single and with her father as head of the household. She records she was born at Woodford, Northampton and that she is living on her own means.

It is it perhaps also significant that Arthur Smyth, Archbishop of Dublin in the 1700s was married to Elizabeth Bonfoy (died 14 July 1761) who was the daughter of Nicholas Bonfoy of Abbot Ripton, Huntingdonshire. Huntingdon and Northampton share close ties and borders. There must surely have been a Smyth to Smyth family connection between Dublin and Hunts./Northants.

This "Smith Forum" message seems to be particularly significant as it includes a Pickford family name associated with Smith (Smyth) of Long Buckby. Information pending.

Further from the records of the law firm Hand, Morgan and Owen of Lichfileld, Staffordshire, courtesy of A2A (PRO) UK.

      FOX FAMILY

         
FILE  [no title] - ref.  D1798/67  - date: 1711-1824; 1730
            \_ [from Scope and ContentDoveridge: (includes seating at Doveridge church),
Smyth, Halt; (Hall?)SmythPalmer; Smith and Shipley, Fox.

      SPARROW PAPERS

         
FILE  [no title] - ref.  D1798/171  - date: 1748-1811
            \_ [from Scope and ContentAbstract of marriage settlement of John Smith Daintry on marriage to Eliz. Ryle, (Wincle Grange, Macclesfield).

      Additional Deposit, January, 1961

         FOX OF UTTOXETER
            [Access Conditions] Bundles of documents; some cannot be examined until repaired owing to parchment adhering to adjacent paper and parchment following damping.

            
FILE  [no title] - ref.  D1798/451  - date: c.1700-1817
               \_ [from Scope and ContentUTTOXETER - Netherwood, various pieces of land bought by Wiston and/or sold to Summerland then to Saunders. (Parties include
Mynors, Dickens, Mullins, Smith, Powell, Hayne).

      D1798/572
         p.RUGELEY

            
FILE  [no title] - ref.  D1798/572/6/1-4 [n.d.]
               \_ [from Scope and ContentInc. marriage settlement of Edward Pickering and Mary Smyth, 1796.

With regard to Pickering family mentioned above: The reference has no date but there is also a reference to a Pickering family marriage with Manners in which William Manners b1734 and d. 1827 m. Caroline Pickering. This William Manners was a son of Lord William Manners and Corbetta Smyth, daughter of William Smyth, Apothecary of Shrewsbury.

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The Local area and the Blagg connection -

These Halls are in the vicinity of the former Fence House: Adlington Hall - Macclesfield | Arley Hall - Northwich | Gawsworth Hall - Macclesfield | Capesthorne Hall - Macclesfield. Here may be found the history of a number of local families and much about the history of the area. During the 18th Century, many Halls and Manors all over England - such as Capesthorpe Hall - as well as public and civic buildings of note, were designed and/or built by Francis and William Smith - known as 'Smiths of Warwick'. They were the sons of a bricklayer from Tettenhall near Wolverhampton. Their accomplishments were legendary and their skills and contacts were much in demand.

There is a note mentioning Lord Mayor Thomas Smyth in the Bridgewater Archives (Archives of Francis Egerton, 3rd. Duke of Bridgewater (the canal Duke) - see page 3 dated 12 April 1790 - located at the University of Salford's Clifford Whitworth Library, Salford Manchester in England). This is an Adobe Acrobat Reader .pdf file. The software (and updates) may be downloaded here.

There is also a tantalising snippet in (PRO) Middlesex (London) County Records which states:-

Middlesex: - Calendar to the Sessions Records, 1614-1615
 Additional Baptisms.   Middlesex Sessions Records.    Sessions Roll. County: Middlesex Country: England
"The matter is referred to
Sir William Smyth and Mr. Blague to end."

This William Smyth and "Blagg" are connected in London as opposed to Cheshire but ... the co-incidence is attractive. It must be assumed that Mr Blague, associated above with Sir William Smythe was a relative/descendant of the Robert Blague mentioned below who seems to have married twice into the same family. This family is also linked with Beaufort and Beauchamp - significant in that the period of the Wars of the Roses and the early Tudor era placed the Smyth/e family and the Neville family in close association. The Nevilles and the Beauforts and Beauchamps were high ranking and powerful families of the day. 'Warwick the Kingmaker' was a Neville. Margaret Nevill - a direct descent from John of Gaunt and of the Nevill(e) family that was so closely associated with the Smyth family of Yorkshire and Rosedale Abbey - was from Raby. She died 30 Sep 1506 in Cobham, Kent. She married John Brooke, son of Edward Brock Brooke and Elizabeth Touchet. John was born 1447 in Cowling, Kent. He died 9 Mar 1512. - Source

John Brooke and Margaret Nevill had the following children:

i Thomas Brooke died 19 Jul 1529.
ii George Brooke married Peche.
iii Alelye Brooke married Robert BLAGUE. - not confirmed by another family site.
iv Edward Brooke was born in Cobham, Kent, Eng.
v Faith Brooke.
vi
Marie Brooke married Robert BLAGUE.
Robert Blague is believed born 1473, according to another family site. Said to be a "Baron"
vii Dorothy Brooke married Robert ISAACK.

There is an internet mention of a Col. Thomas Blague, Groom of The Chamber to Charles II - whose daughter, Mary (1633-1688) 'was a Maid of Honour to Anne, Duchess of York - and disliked by the French diarist, (Count) de Grammont, because of her "paupières blondes" (blond eyelashes).' She married Adam Colclough. See Chapter VI of The Colclough Family by John Nicholas Colclough of Cuffesborough, Ballacolla, Laois in Ireland - a work commenced by his late father - and which charts a most comprehensive history of the different eras in which the Smyth/e families of England and Ireland also operated as key (as well as lesser) players. Another Blague daughter, Margaret, married into the Godolphin family. She died in childbirth and was burried in Cornwall.

A Thomas Blagge was born in Suffolk in about 1626 (according to LDS IGI). He married in 1655 Mary North. Their daughter is listed as Margaret Blagge. It states that she was born in 1652. She died in 1678, aged 26.

Additional note on Thomas Blague ...groom of the bed-chamber to Charles I. and Charles II., colonel of a regiment of foot, and Governor of Wallingford during the Civil War, and Governor of Yarmouth and Landguard Fort, after the Restoration. The following story is told of Blague - "Worcester fight was on September 3, 1651; the king was defeated, and fled, escaping, thanks to a stand made by Wogan, and to the loyalty of Mistress Jane Lane, and of many other faithful adherents. A jewel of Charles's, the lesser George, was preserved by Colonel Blague, who intrusted it to Mr. Barlow of Blore Pipe House, in Staffordshire. Mr. Barlow gave it to Mr. Milward, a Royalist prisoner in Stafford, and he, in turn, intrusted it to Walton, who managed to convey it to Colonel Blague in the Tower. The colonel escaped, and the George was given back to the king. Ashmole, who tells the story, mentions Walton as 'well beloved of all good men.' This incident is, perhaps, the only known adventure in the long life of old Izaak." (Izaac Walton was of Stafford.)

Records of the Dean and Chapter of Rochester: historical information pertaining
List of the Deans of Rochester - 1592 Thomas Blague 1 February; died October 1611.

In about 1655, a Thomas Blagg was born in Macclesfield, Cheshire. He married (20 May, 1680) Mary Hall at Prestbury in Cheshire. A later generation Smyth (John H. Smyth, father of Dame Ethel Smyth) had the second name Hall. Mary Hall was born in Macclesfield in about 1659. A Search for a male Blagg descended from this marriage with a daughter Elizabeth Blagg would provide the answer to that lineage link!

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