From Richard, Duke of York to Henry VII
|From the 1924
publication of E. M. G. Routh's work, "Lady
Margaret Beaufort, a Memoir" which places the political background
to and the key players in this struggle in context.
"... the peaceful course of events was interrupted by one of the insurrections which disturbed the first part of Henry's reign, and the rebellion planned by the various malcontents who put forward the boy Lambert Simnel as Pretender to the Throne came to a head in Ireland.
The Irish, although not very clear whether the claimant was supposed to be one of Edward's sons (who had been murdered) or the Duke of Clarence's son (who was in the Tower) nevertheless crowned him King of England in Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin, with great enthusiasm, and a number of Irishmen, with some Germans, invaded England to try to put him on the throne.
The King was in the Midlands when news of the rising reached him, and he wrote the following letter to the Earl of Ormond, from Kenilworth.
The Earl of Derby, owing to his close connexion with the royal family, was little affected by Henry VII's policy of breaking down the power of the baronage in order to build up that of the Crown, and although extensive social changes were taking place he was one of the few great nobles who remained prominent among the ruins of feudalism. He was usually addressed by the King in public documents as 'our dearest relative', and once at least as 'oure right entierly beloved fader Therle of Derby He and his wife between them had immense wealth and influence and their vast possessions entailed a great deal of business; they had lands in many places and lived sometimes at the earl's estates of Knowsley and Lathom and at Lady Margaret's manor of Woking."
Further in formation on the lineage of the Earls of Derby - the family Ferrers and beyond - "the title was first adopted by the Ferrers family under a creation of 1139."
From Henry VII to Frances Brandon
a history of the Seymours
"Sir Henrie Seymour, Knyght, married Barbara, daughter of Thomas Morgan. [Children] Thomas, Lorde Seymour, of Sudeley, Highe Admirall of Englande, who maryd Katherine [Parr], Queene of Englande, and wydowe to Kynge Henrie the Eight. One other John and Anthony who dyed in their infancy. Jane Queene of Englande, Wyfe to Kynge Henrie the Eight, and mother to Kynge Edwarde the Sixt. Elizabeth, firste marryd to Sir Henrye Ughtred, after to Gregory, Lorde Cromwell, and last to John, Lorde Seint John of Basings, after Marquesse of Winchester. Margerie, who dyed in her infancy, and Dorothe, maryed to Sir Clement Smythe, knyght."
The Seymours held Wolf Hall in Wiltshire - a favourite hunting venue (!) of Henry VIII. Edward Seymour (brother of Jane Seymour, third wife (died) of Henry VIII) became the "Protector Somerset" who - from 1547 - virtually 'ruled' England during the first years of Edward VI's reign. He was eventually beheaded in January, 1552.
In his entries for 1576, Camden writes: "In the Netherlands all things were now most confused, whilest the Spaniards without authoritie thrust certaine Counsailors of the Estates into prison, and committed all outrages against the Country, rifeling their goods and doing them all kindes of injuries, in such sort that the Estates were driven of necessitie to take armes. And forthwith they sent abroad their Messengers to all parts, and by Obigny signified the injuries to Queene Elizabeth, and the causes of their taking armes. The Queene by Doctor Wilson earnestly exhorteth both the Estates and the Spaniards to lay downe armes, and carefully searcheth out the causes why the Estates Counsailors were committed. In the meane time Andwerp, the most excellent of all Cities, which scarce yeelded to any the most flourishing Mart townes of all Europe, was miserably sacked by the Spaniards, the house of the English Marchants spoyled and rifeled, and they (though guiltlesse of all blame) constrained to pay the Souldiers a great summe of Gold for their ransome. Obigny, laying hold on this importunitie, importunately craved to borrow a great summe of money of Queene Elizabeth in the Estates name, to restraine such insolence of the Spaniards. The Queene, who had received certaine intelligence that they had formerly craved mony of the French King, denyed him, but promised to make most diligent intercession to the Spaniard for a peace. And in that behalfe she sent into Spaine Sir John Smith, cousin German to King Edward the sixth, a man of Spanish gesture, and well knowne to the Spaniard; who being most graciously entertained by the King, retorted with such wisedome the disgracefull injuries of Gaspar Quiroga Archbyshop of Toledo against the Queene in hatred of her religion, and of the Inquisitors of Civil [Seville], who allowed not the attribute of Defender of the Faith in the Queenes title, that he received thankes from the King, who was somewhat displeased with the Archbyshop, and prayed the Embassadour to conceale the matter from the Queene, and straightly commanded the said attribute to be admitted. For he knew the Queenes advice to be expedient for his affaires, though he followed it not, the fate of the Netherlands (if I may so speake) thrusting him forward to run another course"
Sir John Smith was the son of Jane Seymour's sister, Dorothy Seymour, who married Sir Clement Smythe. Cousin-german means a first cousin; closely related - of the first degree: full (as in brother, cousin). (See also germane - nearly related; relevant, appropriate.). Clement Smythe was of the Cressing Temple branch of the Smythe family - that of the Carrington/Smyth line.
A Clement Smythe was born in June 1551. He had no children and died in December 1590. His father was Thomas Smythe who married Mary Neville in Leicestershire in about 1554. This line of the family Neville can be traced back to 1000 CE and to Normandy. Mary Neville was a daughter of Thomas Neville and Clara Neville. His grandfather was John Smythe who had married Alice Woode. His great grandfather was also named (Sir) John Smythe - of Cressing Temple, in Essex - great grandmother thought to be Agnes Harwell. Sir John was the second Bt. and was born in about 1494. The first Bt. - Hugh Smythe, (wife Elizabeth) the father of this latter John, died in 1485. Clement Smythe's siblings were William Smythe, Mary Smythe Clare Smythe, Thomas Smythe or Neville (1555-1636) and Henry Smythe. The question of "Smythe or Neville" is raised elsewhere in relation to the Smyth families of Ireland researched on this site and in connection with William Smyth who had probably been educated at Knowsley (Derby Household) and who became Bishop of Lincoln. He was much favoured by Margaret Beaufort and her son, Henry Tudor. (qv Smythe Index - Bishop William Smith/Smyth - on this site.)
Clement Smythe had a sister named Clare - possibly a twin. (1551). It is interesting to note that there was a later generation Clare Smythe (unusual first name in Smythe genealogy) in the Smythe line of Acton Burnell. This Clare Smythe had a difficult life and was able to manage neither her own day-to-day life nor her financial affairs. More detail is available via Shropshire Smythe - of Acton Burnell - formerly of Durham. They were Catholics through several generations when it was dangerous to be so in England. See also the Smythe sections of the Shropshire archives.
From - Visitation of Warwick and Leicester, confirmed by the Deputies of Camden, Clarenceux, to Francis Smyth, of Wooton, grandson of Sir John Smyth, and 5th in descent from John Carrington or Smith, died in 1446, who was 5th in descent from Sir Michael Carrington - Standard Bearer to King Richard I - died in the Holy Land.
Sir Michael Carrington, Standard Bearer to Richard I, in the Holy Land, had a grandson, Sir William Carrington, living during the reign of Edward I. This latter was the father of Sir Edmund Carrington who flourished in the reign of Edward II.
His son, Sir William Carrington, married in the time of Edward III, Lady Catherine, sister of William Montague, Earl of Salisbury, and had a son, Sir Thomas Carrington, who was a steward to Edward III.
According to Burke - "Sir Thomas Carrington married Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Roos, and was father of John Carrington, who in the beginning of the reign of Richard II was forced to expatriate himself, and, after residing sometime abroad, to assume for security the very general surname of Smyth. "
He died in 1446, leaving, among other children, Hugh Smith, his heir, ancestor of the Smiths, Lords Carrington, which branch of the family became extinct in 1706. (See Burke's Extinct and Dormant Peerage) and Thomas Smyth of Rivenhall, whose great-great-great-grandson, Edward Smyth, of Iver, Bucks, married (LDS IGI states 10 September 1677 at St. John, Hackney, London) Frances Pennyman, daughter of William Pennyman of Normanby, in the county of York, and had seven sons and four daughters.
The fourth son, (all the others d. unm.) John Smyth, of Iver, Bucks, married (LDS IGI states 14th June 1716 at Iver in Buckinghamshire) Martha Bethel, daughter of Walter Bethel of Bristol and had three sons and two daughters: of the former, the eldest, The Rev. John Smith, rector of Ashwicken, in Norfolk, and of Henderclay, in Suffolk, married Mary Woodcock, daughter of (unknown) Woodcock, of Warwickshire, and died 17 Oct 1808, having had with two daughters, Mary and Anne, who died unm. an only son, John Carrington Smith.
Question: Names of the other two sons? Francis, Thomas or Richard?
John Carrington Smith of St. Margaret's in the county of Gloucester, was a magistrate and Deputy Lieutenant for Gloucestershire and was a Lieutenant Colonel in the army. He was born 08 May 1766. He married 07 Aug 1799, the Hon. Charlotte Juliana Butler, daughter of the then Viscount Mountgarret, and sister of the Earl of Kilkenny. The sons of this marriage were Edmund Carrington Smith, Capt. in the army; John Somerset Smith, Capt. in the army, who died unmarried and Pierce Butler Smith, who also died unmarried. The daughters were Harriet Mary Smith, Charlotte Juliana Smith, and Anne Smith, all of whom were unmarried.
Lt. Col. John Carrington Smith - Arms: Quarterly; 1st and 4th arg. a cross gu. between four peacocks ppr; 2nd and 3rd arg. on a bend sa. six swords in saltier of the 1st. Crests-1st. A peacock's head erased, issuing out of a ducal coronet, 2nd an arm embowed in armour holding a sword. Motto: Spero Meliora. Estates - In London , Bucks., and Essex. Seat: St. Margaret's, near Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.
These two articles, by David Simpson, are pertinent for the Smythe information supplied:
Secret worshippers who prayed in a 'farmhouse' by David Simpson
A college of long-standing that moves with the times ...
From the Combs family archives - with reference to Gloucestershire - and perhaps with connections to the Stratford families of Smith - contemporaries and friends of John and his son, William, Shakespeare ... via family Savage.
Combs family archives ...
The Smyth family of Nibley in Gloucestershire - a line that originated in Lincolnshire, moving to Leicestershire and thence to Nibley in Gloucestershire. The writings of John Smyth (1568-1641) - born in Leicestershire - provide some of the most valuable historical records available in the modern era. He became Steward to the Berkeley family of Berkeley Castle and recorded that family's history and was also instrumental in settlement ventures, being a principal backer of plantations in the New World colony of Virginia. Many of his letters survive and may be found archived on the Internet. North Nibley (where the family had its home in Gloucestershire) nestles in the Cotswold Hills. Nibley House, the original Smyth home, is next to the church and dates from the 17th Century. Many of the family members were baptised or married at this church and several are buried there. Pedigree 1 | Pedigree 2 (courtesy Tim Powys-Lybbe)